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Κραμβοτάτου · loudest, quite loud, very loud (κ 2319) · Suda

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Near κ2319

κ2315branch
κ2316I scream, I shriek
κ2317Krathis, Crathis
κ2318cabbage
κ2319loudest, quite loud, very loud
κ2320of the rugged ones, of the Kranaoi
κ2321cornel cherry tree
κ2322dog-wood [spear]
κ2323fruit of a dog-wood tree

Suda/Κ kappa/κ2319

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Κραμβοτάτου

loudest, quite loud, very loud

Translated by Nick Nicholas9 Mar 2009Vetting: high3 revisions

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1 note · 29 words

Translation

[Meaning] most/very sweet, most/very dry. Aristophanes made a joke from the idea of the vegetable; for Crates was an improviser in his plays.¹ Or [meaning] air-dried; or very useful.²

Greek original · Adler’s text

Κραμβοτάτου· ἡδυτάτου, ξηροτάτου. ἔπαιξε δὲ Ἀριστοφάνης ἀπὸ τῆς τοῦ λαχάνου ἐπινοίας· αὐτοσχέδιος γὰρ ἦν περὶ τὰ δράματα Κράτης. ἢ τὸ καπυρόν· ἢ τὸ χρηστότατον.

Betacode

*krambota/tou: h(duta/tou, chrota/tou. e)/paice de\ *)aristofa/nhs a)po\ th=s tou= laxa/nou e)pinoi/as: au)tosxe/dios ga\r h)=n peri\ ta\ dra/mata *kra/ths. h)\ to\ kapuro/n: h)\ to\ xrhsto/taton.

Notes (1)

[1] From the scholia to Aristophanes, Knights 539; see already under kappa 2318. Crates (kappa 2339) is the subject of the verse involved: "kneading most ingenious notions from a krambotaton mouth". See further, next note.
2"Air-dried" is from Hesychius; "useful" is from the scholia, which still explain this as a pun from "cabbage", and is unlikely to display deep understanding of the text.
The headword krambota/tou is obscure, evidently. As stated, it is glossed in Hesychius as kapuro/s "air-dried" in this passage (note its secondary meaning "blight in grapes" in Theophrastus); krambale/os in Athenaeus means the same. This accounts for the gloss chrota/tou "driest". LSJ suggests "loud", based on Hesychius' gloss of krambo/s as "dried and parched" laughter; they add xarambaliastu/s "loud laughter" in Hesychius (which they emend as krambaliastu/s). The passages in Hesychius alone do not seem to warrant this extension, but kapuro/s is also used to mean "loud" or "clear-sounding" (LSJ s.v. II), via "crisp" or "crackling", and Theocritus, Idylls 7.37 refers to the kapuro/s (clear-sounding) mouth of the Muses. Bekker suggests instead that the allusion may be to Crates as a drunkard, given how cabbage was eaten to prevent inebriation (kappa 2318).

Linked from1 entry

κ2318ΚράμβηcabbageA kind of pupil-blunter [koramblê] which dulls [amblunousa] clear-sightedness. Better [put], [something] going against sleep. Hence it is the first thing served in banquets, and is not planted near a vine. And the…

Neighbouring entries

κ2317ΚράθιςKrathis, Crathis κ2318Κράμβηcabbage κ2319Κραμβοτάτουloudest, quite loud, very loud κ2320Κραναῶνof the rugged ones, of the Kranaoi κ2321Κρανέαcornel cherry tree

Revision history3 revisions · last 28 Apr 2015

28 Apr 2015coding — Catharine Roth
17 Mar 2013Revised — David Whitehead
9 Mar 2009another x-ref; more keywords; tweaks and cosmetics — David Whitehead
9 Mar 2009Translated — Nick Nicholas

Cite this entry

Suda On Line, s.v. Κραμβοτάτου (Adler number kappa 2319), trans. Nick Nicholas, 9 Mar 2009. https://www.cs.uky.edu/~raphael/sol/sol-entries/kappa/2319

Translation by Nick Nicholas for Suda On Line, revised by Catharine Roth, David Whitehead, licensed CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. Shown unchanged, under the same licence, non-commercially. Original on SOL ↗