Οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισιν οὐδ' ἄνευ πανωλέθρων

neither with utter ruin nor without utter ruin

Translated by Catharine Roth26 Jul 2010Vetting: high3 revisions

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Translation

A proverb. "Women [are an] evil; but nevertheless, o demesmen, it is not possible to find a household without evil."1 And Aristophanes [writes]: "and that saying is rightly said and not badly, 'neither with utter ruin etc.'"

Greek original · Adler’s text

Οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισιν, οὐδ' ἄνευ πανωλέθρων· παροιμία. κακὸν γυναῖκες· ἀλλ' ὅμως, ὦ δημόται, οὐκ ἔστιν εὑρεῖν οἰκίαν ἄνευ κακοῦ. καὶ Ἀριστοφάνης· κἄστ' ἐκεῖνο τοὖπος ὀρθῶς κοὐ κακῶς εἰρημένον, οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισι, καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς.

Betacode
*ou)/te su\n panwle/qroisin, ou)d' a)/neu panwle/qrwn: paroimi/a. kako\n gunai=kes: a)ll' o(/mws, w)= dhmo/tai, ou)k e)/stin eu(rei=n oi)ki/an a)/neu kakou=. kai\ *)aristofa/nhs: ka)/st' e)kei=no tou)=pos o)rqw=s kou) kakw=s ei)rhme/non, ou)/te su\n panwle/qroisi, kai\ ta\ e(ch=s. 

Notes (1)

  1. Aristophanes, Lysistrata 1038-9 (web address 1), with scholion; cf. tau 829.
  2. 1(?)Susarion fr. 1 Kock (and Kassel-Austin); also fr. 1 West; and S.D. Olson, Broken Laughter I1 (= pp.321 with 328-330). ↩

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Revision history3 revisions · last 24 Dec 2014
  1. expanded n.1 — David Whitehead
  2. Revised — David Whitehead
  3. tweaks and cosmetics — David Whitehead
  4. Translated — Catharine Roth

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“neither with utter ruin nor without utter ruin.” Suda On Line. Tr. Catharine Roth. 26 July 2010. <https://www.cs.uky.edu/~raphael/sol/sol-entries/omicron/969>. Read at ReadSuda: <https://readsuda.org/omicron/969>.

Translation by Catharine Roth for Suda On Line, revised by David Whitehead, licensed CC BY-NC-SA 1.0. Shown unchanged, under the same licence, non-commercially. Licence & terms

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