Νῦν δή
just now
Translated by William Hutton16 Nov 2009Vetting: high4 revisions
Translation
[Meaning] recently, or a little earlier. Plato in Laws [writes]: "or though it was just now, a bit earlier, that we visited these arguments and had not yet made these propositions, have we now forgotten them?"1 And Euripides in Hippolytus [writes]: "just now you went up a mountain to pursue your desire for the hunt, now on waveless sands[...]."2 Also in [his] Meleager [Author, Myth]: "you see me just now how you softened fortune."3 Magnes in Pytacides [writes]: "tell me, just now you swore that it had not happened, but now you say it has."4 In the Laws the 'now' is spoken absolutely in reference to present time, but the 'just' serves as a conjunction. "Just which of all the wars is most difficult, as we say just now."5
Greek original · Adler’s text
Νῦν δή· ἀρτίως, ἢ μικρὸν ἔμπροσθεν. Πλάτων Νόμοις· ἢ νῦν δὴ ὀλίγον ἔμπροσθεν τούτοις περιτυχόντες τοῖς λόγοις οὔπω ταῦτ' ἐτίθεμεν· νῦν δὲ ἐπιλελήσμεθα; καὶ Εὐριπίδης ἐν Ἱππολύτῳ· νῦν δὴ μὲν ὄρος βᾶσ' ἐπὶ θήρας πόθον ἐστέλλου, νῦν δὲ ψαμάθοισιν ἀκυμάντοις. καὶ ἐν Μελεάγρῳ· ὁρᾷς σὺ νῦν δή με ὡς ἐπράϋνας τύχην. Μάγνης δὲ ἐν Πυτακίδῃ· εἰπέ μοι· νῦν δὴ μὲν ὤμνυς μὴ γεγονέναι, νῦν δὲ φής· ἐν δὲ τοῖς Νόμοις διαλελυμένον εἴρηκε τὸ μὲν νῦν ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος χρόνου, τὸ δὲ δὴ ἐπὶ συνδέσμου. ὃς δὴ πάντων τῶν πολέμων χαλεπώτατος, ὡς φαμὲν ἡμεῖς νῦν δή.
Betacode
*nu=n dh/: a)rti/ws, h)\ mikro\n e)/mprosqen. *pla/twn *no/mois: h)\ nu=n dh\ o)li/gon e)/mprosqen tou/tois perituxo/ntes toi=s lo/gois ou)/pw tau=t' e)ti/qemen: nu=n de\ e)pilelh/smeqa; kai\ *eu)ripi/dhs e)n *(ippolu/tw|: nu=n dh\ me\n o)/ros ba=s' e)pi\ qh/ras po/qon e)ste/llou, nu=n de\ yama/qoisin a)kuma/ntois. kai\ e)n *melea/grw|: o(ra=|s su\ nu=n dh/ me w(s e)pra/u+nas tu/xhn. *ma/gnhs de\ e)n *putaki/dh|: ei)pe/ moi: nu=n dh\ me\n w)/mnus mh\ gegone/nai, nu=n de\ fh/s: e)n de\ toi=s *no/mois dialelume/non ei)/rhke to\ me\n nu=n e)pi\ tou= paro/ntos xro/nou, to\ de\ dh\ e)pi\ sunde/smou. o(\s dh\ pa/ntwn tw=n pole/mwn xalepw/tatos, w(s fame\n h(mei=s nu=n dh/.
Notes (5)
- Very similarly in Photius (nu294 Theodoridis, with other references).
- 1Plato, Laws 3.683E (web address 1), but here slightly garbled. In place of
ou)/pw ('not yet') the text of Plato readsou(/tw ('thus') which produces far better sense ("..had thus made these propositions..."). ↩ - 2An approximation of Euripides, Hippolytus 233-235 (web address 2). ↩
- 3Euripides fr. 535 Nauck (and Kannicht), probably garbled. Nauck reads a vocative
*tu/xh in place of the accusativetu/xhn transmitted here and in Photius. This yields much better sense: "you see how you softened me just now, Fortune." ↩ - 4Magnes [mu 20] fr. 6 Kock (and K.-A.); cf. pi 3257. ↩
- 5Plato, Laws 1.629D, except that the text of Plato reads, more plausibly,
e)/famen ('we said'). See web address 3. ↩
External resources
- Web address 1 perseus.tufts.edu
- Web address 2 perseus.tufts.edu
- Web address 3 perseus.tufts.edu
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Revision history4 revisions · last 4 Dec 2020
- tweaked links — Catharine Roth
- adjustments — David Whitehead
- cosmetic, links — Catharine Roth
- another note; another keyword; tweaks and cosmetics — David Whitehead
- Translated — William Hutton