Οὐ μετὸν αὐτῷ
not having a share for him
Translated by Ronald Allen4 Jul 2010Vetting: high9 revisions
Translation
Meaning not being available.1 Aristophanes in Clouds [sc. uses the phrase].2
And Menander [writes]: "[...] water not being available to them."3
And Menander [writes]: "[...] water not being available to them."3
Greek original · Adler’s text
Οὐ μετὸν αὐτῷ· ἀντὶ τοῦ οὐκ ἐξόν. Ἀριστοφάνης Νεφέλαις. καὶ Μένανδρος· ὕδατος αὐτοῖς οὐ μετόν.
Betacode
*ou) meto\n au)tw=|: a)nti\ tou= ou)k e)co/n. *)aristofa/nhs *nefe/lais. kai\ *me/nandros: u(/datos au)toi=s ou) meto/n.
Notes (3)
- Conventionally, the headword phrase is Aristophanes fr. 381 Kock, now 396 Kassel-Austin. However, in her critical apparatus Adler deems this rash ('temere') and points instead (following Dindorf) to Ecclesiazusae 667: see n. 2 below. If that is correct, the present lemma has supplied the negative. Alternatively this is an adaptation of the quotation given (see n. 3 below, where the adjective/pronoun
au)to/s (same, self) is not masculine (or neuter) dative singular but plural. Either way, the verb form here is the present active participle, neuter nominative, accusative, and vocative (and masculine vocative) singular form of the verbme/teimi , I am among, have a share in; see generally LSJ s.v. - 1The participle in the gloss is the same form as in the headword phrase, but from the verb
e)/cesti , it is allowed, in one's power, possible; see generally LSJ s.v. ↩ - 2As noted above, the correct location for the lemma is probably Aristophanes, Ecclesiazusae [Assemblywomen] 667 (web address 1), where Praxagora rhetorically asks her husband Blepyrus,
pw=s ga\r kle/yei meto\n au)tw=|; , For how can someone steal what he has a share in?. [In her critical apparatus Adler notes that the phrase 'Aristophanes in Clouds', lacking in ms F, was attractively related by Bernhardy to omicron 919.] ↩ - 3The quotation was attributed to Menander Comicus by Kock (as his fr. 901). Adler castigated this as false, assigning it instead (albeit without a specific reference) to the historian Menander Protector (C6 CE). Possibly, then, the passage pertains to the restoration of the water supply for the city of Daras (Dara, Anastasioupolis; Barrington Atlas map 89 grid C3; about 20km southeast of modern Mardin, Turkey; cf. alpha 3174, delta 68, and delta 1009) by Ioannes (John, son of Domnentiolus; d. 567; no. 81 in PLRE IIIa, pp. 672-4) while on a diplomatic mission in 567 from Emperor Justin II (Eastern Emperor 565-78 CE; PLRE IIIa, s.v. Iustinus 5, pp. 754-6); cf. Blockley, pp. 96-9. However, attribution to Menander the comic poet has persisted: fr. 802 Koerte-Thiefelder, and latterly fr. 885 Kassel-Austin. ↩
References
J.R. Martindale, The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire, vol. IIIa, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1992
R.C. Blockley, The History of Menander the Guardsman, Liverpool: Francis Cairns, 1985
R.C. Blockley, The History of Menander the Guardsman, Liverpool: Francis Cairns, 1985
External resources
- Web address 1 perseus.tufts.edu
Linked from3 entries
- μ794Μετόνthere being a share[Meaning] it being possible. Aristophanes [writes]: "no-one will be a thief. For how would he steal, there being a share for him?" Instead of me/testi ["there is a share"].
- ο916Οὐ μέλον αὐτῷnot being of interest to him[Meaning] not worth heeding. Menander [sc. Protector writes]: "[...] in this way a siege against Nisibis not being of interest to him [...]."
- ο919Οὐ μὴ ληρήσῃςdo not talk nonsense[Meaning] will you not stop talking nonsense?
Neighbouring entries
Revision history9 revisions · last 28 Feb 2021
- coding — Catharine Roth
- my typo, spotted by RA — David Whitehead
- expanded n.3 — David Whitehead
- updated a ref — David Whitehead
- tweak — Catharine Roth
- tweaks and cosmetics — David Whitehead
- small addenda to n.3 supplied by the translator — David Whitehead
- tweaked link — Catharine Roth
- reworked primary note; modified keywords; tweaks and cosmetics — David Whitehead
- Translated — Ronald Allen