Ἐκεῖνος

that

Translated by Catharine Roth5 Apr 2005Vetting: high7 revisions

3 notes · 56 words

The poets use e)kei=nos and kei=nos ¹ and au)to/s instead of a name. Aristophanes in Clouds [writes]: "but go inside, so that that man won't run into us!"² And Homer introduces Thetis [sc. when she is] saying, "Why has that great god summoned me?"³ And [there is the expression] among the Pythagoreans, "He himself said it."⁴

Greek original · Adler’s text

Ἐκεῖνος καὶ κεῖνος καὶ τὸ αὐτὸς ἀντὶ ὀνόματος παραλαμβάνουσιν οἱ ποιηταί. Ἀριστοφάνης Νεφέλαις· ἀλλ' εἴσιθ', ἵνα μὴ κεῖνος ἡμῖν ἐπιτύχῃ. καὶ Ὅμηρος τὴν Θέτιν παρεισάγει λέγουσαν· τίπτε μ' ἐκεῖνος ἄνωγε μέγας θεός; καὶ τό, αὐτὸς ἔφα, παρὰ τοῖς Πυθαγορείοις.

Betacode

*)ekei=nos kai\ kei=nos kai\ to\ au)to\s a)nti\ o)no/matos paralamba/nousin oi( poihtai/. *)aristofa/nhs *nefe/lais: a)ll' ei)/siq', i(/na mh\ kei=nos h(mi=n e)pitu/xh|. kai\ *(/omhros th\n *qe/tin pareisa/gei le/gousan: ti/pte m' e)kei=nos a)/nwge me/gas qeo/s; kai\ to/, au)to\s e)/fa, para\ toi=s *puqagorei/ois.

Notes (3)

[1] *)ekei=nos stands for *e)kei-enos, from e)kei= "there" and the suffix -enos. The variant form (used in Ionic) kei=nos (cf. Doric and Aeolic kh=nos) is usually classified as pertaining to poetry, but there is not a definite polarization opposing the poetic to the prosaic use of this pronoun. In Homer and Hesiod both forms are to be found, but the shorter is more frequent. A similar use of the two can be observed in the Corpus Hippocraticum and in Herodotus, although the manuscript tradition shows much oscillation between the two forms. As for Aristophanes, sometimes the shorter one appears to be used with particular purposes, as in Peace 48 (where an Ionian is speaking), Lysistrata 795, 818 (choral sections) or Wasps 751 (tragic parody). Demosthenes and other Attic prose writers at times use kei=nos, but often they do so after a vowel or diphthong (where the initial epsilon might be elided).
2Aristophanes, Clouds 195 (web address 1), with scholion. ↩
3Homer, Iliad 24.90 (web address 2). ↩
4cf. alpha 4523.

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α4523Αὐτὸς ἔφαhe himself said; ipse dixit"This proverbial [phrase], in reference to Pythagoras the philosopher, entered into [usage in everyday] life." For this man, glorifying his own word and life in his lectures, used to say "he said himself"; meaning he…

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Revision history7 revisions · last 17 Dec 2016

17 Dec 2016expanded note — Catharine Roth
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6 Apr 2005cosmetics — Catharine Roth
6 Apr 2005added a note; set status — Antonella Ippolito
5 Apr 2005Translated — Catharine Roth

Greek original · Adler’s text

Betacode

*)ekei=nos kai\ kei=nos kai\ to\ au)to\s a)nti\ o)no/matos paralamba/nousin oi( poihtai/. *)aristofa/nhs *nefe/lais: a)ll' ei)/siq', i(/na mh\ kei=nos h(mi=n e)pitu/xh|. kai\ *(/omhros th\n *qe/tin pareisa/gei le/gousan: ti/pte m' e)kei=nos a)/nwge me/gas qeo/s; kai\ to/, au)to\s e)/fa, para\ toi=s *puqagorei/ois.

Notes (3)

[1] *)ekei=nos stands for *e)kei-enos, from e)kei= "there" and the suffix -enos. The variant form (used in Ionic) kei=nos (cf. Doric and Aeolic kh=nos) is usually classified as pertaining to poetry, but there is not a definite polarization opposing the poetic to the prosaic use of this pronoun. In Homer and Hesiod both forms are to be found, but the shorter is more frequent. A similar use of the two can be observed in the Corpus Hippocraticum and in Herodotus, although the manuscript tradition shows much oscillation between the two forms. As for Aristophanes, sometimes the shorter one appears to be used with particular purposes, as in Peace 48 (where an Ionian is speaking), Lysistrata 795, 818 (choral sections) or Wasps 751 (tragic parody). Demosthenes and other Attic prose writers at times use kei=nos, but often they do so after a vowel or diphthong (where the initial epsilon might be elided).

2Aristophanes, Clouds 195 (web address 1), with scholion. ↩

3Homer, Iliad 24.90 (web address 2). ↩

4cf. alpha 4523.

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