Κοινὰ τὰ τῶν φίλων
the property of friends is common property
Translated by David Whitehead20 Apr 2003Vetting: high8 revisions
Translation
Timaeus says in his 9th [book] that this [proverb] originated in Magna Graecia, in the period when Pythagoras persuaded those settling there to hold property undistributed [to private owners]. Menander uses the proverb in Brothers.2
"Not, of course, referring to goods alone but also to the sharing of intellect and intelligence".3
"Not, of course, referring to goods alone but also to the sharing of intellect and intelligence".3
Greek original · Adler’s text
Κοινὰ τὰ τῶν φίλων· Τίμαιός φησιν ἐν τῷ θʹ ταύτην λεχθῆναι κατὰ τὴν μεγάλην Ἑλλάδα, καθ' οὓς χρόνους Πυθαγόρας ἀνέπειθε τοὺς ταύτην κατοικοῦντας ἀδιανέμητα κεκτῆσθαι. κέχρηται τῇ παροιμίᾳ Μένανδρος Ἀδελφοῖς. οὐ δήπου τὰ χρήματα λέγων μόνον ἀλλὰ καὶ τὴν τοῦ νοῦ καὶ τῆς φρονήσεως κοινωνίαν.
Betacode
*koina\ ta\ tw=n fi/lwn: *ti/maio/s fhsin e)n tw=| q# tau/thn lexqh=nai kata\ th\n mega/lhn *(ella/da, kaq' ou(\s xro/nous *puqago/ras a)ne/peiqe tou\s tau/thn katoikou=ntas a)diane/mhta kekth=sqai. ke/xrhtai th=| paroimi/a| *me/nandros *)adelfoi=s. ou) dh/pou ta\ xrh/mata le/gwn mo/non a)lla\ kai\ th\n tou= nou= kai\ th=s fronh/sews koinwni/an.
Notes (3)
- First paragraph here = Photius, Lexicon kappa839.
See also kappa 2550, and generally Tosi [cited under alpha 378] no.433. - 1Timaeus of Tauromenium [tau 602] FGrH 566 F13a. ↩
- 2Menander fr. 9 Kock (13 K.-A.). ↩
- 3Julian, Speech 8, 245b Hertlein. Plato ends the Phaedrus with the proverb used in this wider sense (279C, the scholia to which furnish most of the material here). See web address 1. ↩
External resources
- Web address 1 perseus.tufts.edu
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- Translated — David Whitehead