Καρικῇ Μούσῃ

with a Carian muse

Translated by Catharine Roth13 Feb 2008Vetting: high5 revisions

3 notes · 75 words

[Meaning] with a mournful [song].¹ For the Carians seem to be a kind of dirge-singers and to mourn the dead of others for payment. But some understood [Plato to mean] in a non-Greek and obscure language; because the Carians speak a barbarian [i.e. non-Greek] language.²
And [there is] a proverb: 'a Carian story'.
[It is said] that a fisherman having seen an octopus during winter, said, "if I do not dive, I shall be hungry."³

Greek original · Adler’s text

Καρικῇ Μούσῃ· τῇ θρηνώδει. δοκοῦσι γὰρ οἱ Κᾶρες θρηνῳδοί τινες εἶναι καὶ ἀλλοτρίους νεκροὺς ἐπὶ μισθῷ θρηνεῖν. τινὲς δὲ ἐξήκουσαν τῇ βαρβάρῳ καὶ ἀσαφεῖ· ἐπειδὴ οἱ Κᾶρες βαρβαρόφωνοι. καὶ παροιμία Καρικὸς αἶνος. ὅτι ἁλιεὺς ἰδὼν ἐν χειμῶνι πολύπουν εἶπεν· εἰ μὴ κολυμβήσω, πεινήσω.

Betacode

*karikh=| *mou/sh|: th=| qrhnw/dei. dokou=si ga\r oi( *ka=res qrhnw|doi/ tines ei)=nai kai\ a)llotri/ous nekrou\s e)pi\ misqw=| qrhnei=n. tine\s de\ e)ch/kousan th=| barba/rw| kai\ a)safei=: e)peidh\ oi( *ka=res barbaro/fwnoi. kai\ paroimi/a *kariko\s ai)=nos. o(/ti a(lieu\s i)dw\n e)n xeimw=ni polu/poun ei)=pen: ei) mh\ kolumbh/sw, peinh/sw.

Notes (3)

1Headword phrase in the dative singular, from the passage discussed below. [Translation and notes submitted by Claude Desplanques.] ↩
2Also in Photius (Lexicon kappa196); from a scholion on Plato, Laws 7.800E (web address 1). For "barbarian-speaking Carians," see Homer, Iliad 2.867. ↩
3cf. Macarius Chrysocephalus [metropolitan of Philadelphia, 1336-82], Proverbs 5.9: *ka/rios ai)=nos: e)pi\ tw=n a)porou/ntwn ti diapra/casqai: a(lie/a ga/r fasi trofh=s a)porou=nta xeimw=ni ei)pei=n: *kolumbh/sw, a)lla\ r(igh/sw: mh\ kolumbh/sw, a)lla\ peina/sw; "Carian story: in reference to those who are uncertain what to do: for they say that the fisherman who needs food in winter says 'if I dive I shall be cold, if I do not dive I shall be hungry'." ↩

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κ389Καρικὸν θῦμαCarian sacrifice, Karian sacrifice[sc. A proverbial phrase] in reference to those who are sacrificing lean or inedible [sc. animal] limbs. For the Carians sacrifice a dog. Eunapius [writes this?].

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κ386ΚαριαθιαρείμKariathiareim κ387Καρίδαςprawns, shrimp κ388Καρικῇ Μούσῃwith a Carian muse κ389Καρικὸν θῦμαCarian sacrifice, Karian sacrifice κ390Καρίνη γυνήKarian woman, Carian woman

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12 Apr 2019cosmeticule — Catharine Roth
29 Apr 2016coding — David Whitehead
14 Apr 2013upgraded link — Catharine Roth
28 Jan 2013tweaking — David Whitehead
14 Feb 2008more keywords; cosmetics — David Whitehead
13 Feb 2008Translated — Catharine Roth

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