Οἶνος ἄνευ παίδων
wine without children
Translated by William Hutton15 Nov 2000Vetting: high9 revisions
Translation
Two proverbs: one [is] "wine and truth", the other "wine and children [are] true". It is used in reference to those who are being ingenuous and speaking the truth.1
Interpretation of Dreams of Nikephoros the patriarch:2 "Wine emptied from vessels brings an end to pains. Foul wine makes many pains plain. If you partake of wine expect terrible quarrels."
Interpretation of Dreams of Nikephoros the patriarch:2 "Wine emptied from vessels brings an end to pains. Foul wine makes many pains plain. If you partake of wine expect terrible quarrels."
Greek original · Adler’s text
Οἶνος ἄνευ παίδων· δύο παροιμίαι, ἡ μὲν οἶνος καὶ ἀλήθεια, ἡ δ' οἶνος καὶ παῖδες ἀληθεῖς. λαμβάνεται ἐπὶ τῶν ἁπλοϊζομένων καὶ τὴν ἀλήθειαν λεγόντων. λύσις ὀνείρων Νικηφόρου πατριάρχου· οἶνος κενωθεὶς ἀγγείων παύει λύπας. οἶνος ῥυπώδης ἐκτρανοῖ πολλὰς λύπας. οἴνου μετασχὼν προσδόκα δεινὰς μάχας.
Betacode
*oi)=nos a)/neu pai/dwn: du/o paroimi/ai, h( me\n oi)=nos kai\ a)lh/qeia, h( d' oi)=nos kai\ pai=des a)lhqei=s. lamba/netai e)pi\ tw=n a(ploi+zome/nwn kai\ th\n a)lh/qeian lego/ntwn. lu/sis o)nei/rwn *nikhfo/rou patria/rxou: oi)=nos kenwqei\s a)ggei/wn pau/ei lu/pas. oi)=nos r(upw/dhs e)ktranoi= polla\s lu/pas. oi)/nou metasxw\n prosdo/ka deina\s ma/xas.
Notes (2)
- 1Likewise in Photius, Lexicon omicron128 Theodoridis, and cf. the scholia to Plato, Symposium 217E, where Alkibiades says:
to\ lego/menon, oi)=nos a)/neu te pai/dwn kai\ meta\ pai/dwn h)=n a)lhqh/s ; "there is, as the proverb says, truth in wine - whether one adds 'and in children' is of no significance" (tr. W.Hamilton). The first of these is best known nowadays in its Latin form, in vino veritas (Tosi [cited under alpha 378] no.1424); and for the latter cf. our "out of the mouths of babes and sucklings". ↩ - 2See the note to beta 351. ↩
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- tweaked tr — David Whitehead
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- expanded n.1; more keywords; tweaking — David Whitehead
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- another note — David Whitehead
- added note and keywords; minor cosmetics — David Whitehead
- Translated — William Hutton